Second are the POWER tripping DICKHEADS. NO.Why?, because they DO NOT follow the LAWS but you,and I had best damn well do it. Our Criminal Code outlaws hollow nose bullets under certain circumstances. It’s officer Louis Plock who needs to be arrested. No one I’ve spoken with has experienced legal hassle on open carry, better that way because the law specifically disallows stops simply for carrying a firearm. A fourth degree offense is considered a felony and accordingly, subjects a person to possible … ALL BUT TWO OF THEM ARE DIRTY. They do not care, they have the same attitude like NYPD and PA NYNJ at the airports, charge you, arrest you and let the judge and jury deal with it. Read the new book that reveals the little-known history of the US Concealed Carry Association. With all that cop intervention, you’d think New Jersey would be crimeless. Naaaaa…this one wasn’t racially motivated. Some rounds expand to nearly twice the original size, dependent on the design and composition of the projectile and the muzzle velocity when it impacts the target. When it gets to this point, they are LOST and are of ZERO use to the rest of us. So the copers are sunk right from the git-go. Next year (we only allow the Legislature the opportunity to scr uh, do their work for 90 days every other year)… Read more », @DZ – I also live in TX. Open Carry of a handgun requires the person be 21 years old, qualify for and possess an LTC. Twyne advised and showed the officers that he has a New Jersey Permit to Carry a Handgun, and informed the officers that he was coming home from his employment as an armored car security guard and was, in fact, one block away from his home. An example of this can be seen with the Hornaday Critical Defense #ad / Critical Duty, Car-Bon PowRball / Glaser Safety Slug and Nosler Inc. Defense ammunition.” (Emphasis added.). Thus, anyone who writes, judges, lawyers, enforces or funds unconstitutional law is criminal to the point of treason. However, amour piercing bullets for pistols are not. In most departments, complaints are recorded and if an individual officer gets enough it may influence his chances of promotion. Too many LEOs with nothing (they want) to do. Hammer them as hard as possible I really hope that ammo is the standard issue duty ammo suppied by his eimplyer. To me they remain unconstitutional regardless of how… Read more », Join the discussion… Every law in American that “infringes” on the right to keep and bear arms is, on its face, Unconstitutional…but we’ve got a bunch of guys and gals in black robes that apparently cannot pass a 3rd grade reading exam…. Those cops are the ones who should be in prison!! In fifty years I have been stopped three times, one very professional and super easy to talk to,and deal with. No wonder why people don’t trust the cops, lawyers, judges, legislators, presidents and their financiers. Tracers, amor piercing, incendiary. Which makes absolutely no sense- but then- it’s Jersey. And dig this: as of Feb 11, (according to a report in the Newark Star Ledger), there were “48” “Red Flag” arrests in Ocean County, (which has an average age of over 65 and is a NJ REPUBLICAN enclave and aka as God’s Waiting Room in NJ), and “ZERO” arrests in HEAVELY DEMOCRATIC and crime ridden Hudson County and only “4” in Essex County, home to Cory Booker’s Newark. I used to live in NJ and his reputation is impeccable. What is an issue is New Jersey’s constant violations of the 2nd Amendment. Odds are quite high their… Read more ». Berger Elite Hunter Hunting 270 Caliber 170 Grain Hybrid Hollow Point Boat Tail Reloading Bullets, 100 Per Box Md: 27575 This Hunter hollow point ammunition features a copper jacket and tip with a lead core. Hope the kid wins out! You say there’s no evidence to back up a charge of racism. After further thought: It’s the banks and those financial institutions involved that need to step up in defense of this guy. Specifically, the controlling statute, N.J.S.A. Or that his actions will reflect upon his family: put citizens at undue risk, and you might as well put your family at undue risk. There are some famous brands that are well-known as “good guy ” … Your FREE book download is on its way to your inbox. 18USC242 and 243, Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law and Conspiracy to commit the same. Whether or not race was actually an issue in the initial stop or how the cops treated him after stopping him – it can certainly be a powerful tool in the right hands as well as in the court of public opinion. They are COMPLETELY LEGAL to buy/sell/possess/use. By making bigger holes and attempting to keep the bullet in the target as opposed to just passing through, all possible energy is used to stop the attacker. Not mean. I’d go after them each personally and individually on rights violation under colour of law, Go after their personal bonds and insurance. The sad reality is that some of the available hollow points are only marginally better than your average ball ammo is, as they don't expand consistently, or don't expand at all. Here we have an apparently-decent, law-abiding gentleman who has played by the rules and his reward is to be arrested, will possibly lose his job and be placed in prison. Perhaps this was some of the reason for Speer making their G2 ammo the way they do. If this guy had all the proper ID with him and he showed those to the cops why did the cops feel a need to inspect his firearm and the ammo when he was being stopped for a traffic offense of dark tinted windows? but if they set the condition of not coming after the dirty coppers, I’d tell em to go fly a kite. I know of no law that says you can't buy or have hollow point bullets as a non enforcement person. There ought to be some kind of civil redress/punishment for an LEO that does such a thing! Probably issued by his company, certain it is in full compliance wiht NJ law. A crucial self-defense moment is no time to discover that your carry gun doesn’t like to fire hollow points. Use whatever tools you have, whatever the environment can provide and whatever tactics or strategy give you an advantage. To me, there’s nothing worse than a cop with a badge and a gun that has let it go to his head. Hollow Nose or Hollow Point Bullets In New Jersey, it is also illegal to possess hollow nose or hollow point bullets unless you are engaged in one of the activities that are considered “exemptions.” These include: hunting, fishing, and target shooting. That way his company can go after thd dirty coppers as well, and back up their employee in his legal fight. Possession of Hollow Nose Bullets. The only thing that’s missing is some patriots to arrest them all, and honest prosecutors and judges to see them tried & convicted. The New Jersey State Police Firearms Information FAQ website specifically states: “Ammunition lacking a hollow cavity at the tip, such as those with polymer filling, are not considered to be hollow point ammunition. I worked in law enforcement for many years. Seriously, cut the shit with the cries of… Read more », @Tsgtschmitt – However victim being black makes this an even better case with which to challenge NJ laws. Uncover the Backstory Free Book. @ed – It does however appear that their ammunition law is, on it’s face, unconstitutional. One term that you’re likely to come across quite frequently is “hollow-point.”. His employers obviously are just as complicit in the presumption of guilt as the jerks that arrested him–they should have done everything in their power to get this man some representation, and shown him that… Read more ». Not actually sure what the AP law is, I’m of the mind that if a handgun round is not sufficient then one needs a rifle. it’s NJ no surprise police have been racial profiling for decades. NJ has some of, if not the most, draconian gun laws on the books, The state is run buy rich, left wing socialist “Demorats”! 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This man is a threat to not only his PD, to include all other PDs, but his family by way of his actions. get out your checkbook and get ready to stroke a big one ….. Police education of hyper technical laws is critical! In a very wet lightining storm. There are lots of cops on patrol out there who will gladly arrest you for the color of your skin, if they do not like how you look at them, if they do not like what you say to them, and regardless if you are in compliance with all statutes! Show. His subsequent arrest was unjustifiable.”, Evan Nappen (www.EvanNappen.com) is a criminal defense attorney who has focused on New Jersey firearms and weapons law for several decades. Go get them Nappen, and rip them a new… Read more ». If they don’t know this, or understand this about themselves, then they shouldn’t be wearing a badge. Ammunition Sales Restrictions. Join the discussion…I say use whatever ammo we can muster against our enemies. The explanation even has a picture, which is apparently too much for Plock to understand. Courts have “clarified” that cops don’t have to know the laws, while we do. Not “Joisey” by any means. Where did you send that donation to? Doesn’t appear the ammunition law, or at least the NJSP explanation of the law, is even technical, much less hyper-technical. NJ is one of those places where they hire cops that think they’re the only ones “smart” enough to carry firearms, and that the rest of us have no need to. Join 500,000 responsibly armed Americans who trust the USCCA to help them keep their families safe. Hiring an attorney of the calibre of Mr. Nappen should have them shaking in their boots. An ordinance from 1994 bars the sale of hollow-point ammunition within the city limits of San Francisco, California, states AllGov. The standard acceptable expansion is 1.7 times the original diameter of the projectile. Twyne’s Permit to Carry a Handgun specifies the Smith & Wesson handgun that he was carrying at the time of the stop. Their behavior is a direct attack on the foundations of our country. Hollow points. We have TWO set of laws in our SO called RULE of LAW nation.One for thee, and NONE for me.Just look at D.C. HALF the Congress and Senate, and the entire upper echelons of all ABC agencies need to be replaced or the entire Dept CLOSED.Most should be serving time,but they are FREE as birds. Not being racist here, that’s reality. G2 R.I.P. He directed that his police not stop people for carrying a pistol openly unless they otherwise acted improperly when open carry was passed and constitutional carry didn’t. Roswell Park …. 100% Risk-Free with the USCCA Notice the hollow cavity in the lead at the tip of the bullet and the serrations at the top of the copper jacket. Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Winners List, Firearms Are Part of My Conviction, Not My Religion, Ask Ed: Concealed Carry FAQs — January 2021, Basic Concealed Carry Laws: West Virginia. The expansion of a hollow-point bullet generates two main effects. The Hornady ammo is just what I would think of as non-hollowpoint because it’s point isn’t hollow. It is a common misapprehension that hollow-point ammunition is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions, as the prohibition significantly predates those conventions. By the way, a Chief Warrant Officer in the Company I was assigned to in Germany, Mr. Lee was the person who oversaw the issuance of ammo to Lt. Calley and his troops for that mission. Both felonies at the federal level, all of which these politicians and redcoats, er, jack-booted thugs, er, cops could be charged, tried and be punished for! Starting with the “race card” isn’t a… Read more ». Legal cases are a fight – and as in a physical fight the first rule is win. The Traditional Best Bullet for Whitetails. He’s a disgrace to the badge and uniform he wears. Too low are the education prerequisites for LEOs. Maybe, if it costs a badge or two, they will start working FOR US not against us. Hollow-point bullets are illegal in MA only if you are carrying the firearm 'fully loaded'. Small arms ammunition has to be separated from flammable products by a fire-resistant wall or by a distance of 25 feet. But the U.S. False premises for the “contact” right out of the gate, then we get to the dirty coppers going over his weapon to the extent they examine the ammunition he’s using? Florida Statute §790.31 defines armor-piercing ammunition as well as other types of ammunition which are illegal under Florida law. check it again. Too much deference to LEOs via “qualified immunity” and shielding through union attorneys. N.J.S.A 2C:39-3f(1) limits the possession of hollow nose ammunition. I hope he takes that little podunk town for all it’s worth. Compounding that is the fact that all gun control in the USA began as a way of suppressing the rights of black Americans and maintaining control and oppression over them. Case and point years ago,traffic stop, handed over license, insurance card, registration, conceal carry permit,… Read more ». Plock also charged Twyne with unlawful transportation of a weapon under NJS 2C:39-9D. Are Hollow-Point Bullets Illegal For Personal Defense Many law-enforcement agencies use hollow-point ammunition. In all of the years that I have carried with my permit, I have never had an issue with any State Police, now when it gets to the local Police that gets to a new level, of why and what they stop you for! Ohhhh boy…. Sportsman's Guide carries Bulk Ammo in Jacketed Hollow Point (JHP). He is, in fact, an enemy of the Constitution. Neither you nor them are protected just because you’re a cop. All representatives employed by Delta Defense, LLC. They were bullied in school,or were bullies, or picked LAST for every team. For me, open carry is simply legal cover for when my visual cover fails. you obviously do not understand :life in Joisey:” Tinted windows are a stupid thing to fuss over, but they do. I was ready to boogaloo for this man and illegal cop activity until his lawyer played the race card. Twyne is innocent of these charges as a matter of law, and never should have been arrested. The patented Flex Tip® technology used in Critical Defense® ammunition eliminates the clogging and inconsistency that often plagues hollow point bullets. The latest ammo from the major U.S. manufacturers required over ten years of experimenting before offering the premium quality products that are now available. Once joined to a viable delivery system, they then violate the INF treaty of 1989, or something. In that part of the coutry tinted windows are “a thing” amongst blacks and Mexicans. I have a fired .223 Blank case on my keyring, even that would get me arrested in NJ. Page: 1; 2; Federal P38HSD1 38+P 130 HSHK - 20rd Box. Also if this isn’t a clear case of profiling, I don’t know what is! Guess he couldn’t handle the feedback or publicity. If so, your sarcasm did not come across in writen form… Apparently (judging by current net 5 down votes) your joke fell flat. Now he’s lost me. I imagine the city will fold quickly in fear of case escalating. Duh. Oh, and try a COmmercial LIen (he WAS returnign from his employment aftr his shift….) @oldgringo – Got to wonder how well this plus RICO would work to support claim of legal self-defense. Are you suggesting that cops and gun grabbers see hollow points as being as deadly-effective as nuclear weapons? They misjudged him, though. The problem in this case is that there in no retribution available against Plock even though he CLEARLY VIOLATED THIS MAN’S CIVIL RIGHTS!!! https://www.usconcealedcarry.com › blog › what-is-hollow-point-ammo Under NJ law, only ACTIVE DUTY LEOs are permitted to carry hollow point ammo (both while on duty and off duty). . ~Dr.… Read more », @Doszap – Many years after the fact, figured I should have reported one cop’s behavior to his supervisors. Hollow-point ammunition contains a divot in the very tip of the bullet. He’s a nazi with a badge. Compare licensing laws to carry and you’ll see why. Since he was following the letter of the (unconstitutional) law, had all his credentials for the officer’s perusal, and complied with the orders given, WHY would he be suspended? We need a Constitutional Convention to REMOVE several states from the UNION. Now add in the vastly increased likelihood such people are involved in i”illegal” guns and/or drugs. Even bolo and flechette rounds for 12 gauge shotguns are legal here. this one does, he’s well employed, has a nice ride, and we “got supin on ‘im”, so he matters a lot. The information regarding the legality of his ammunition is easily available to the public and law enforcement on the New Jersey State Police website. Have only noticed a couple people open carrying and neither one was harassed in any way which I observed. I have known nearly a hundred officers, feds and judges by name. These cops went against there oath to uphold and defend the constitution and should be held accountable!! In my mind it’s pointless to compare these – it’s a bit like being a little pregnant. In all of those stops I have most times ended up having to go to court, which brings me to conclude that the locals didn’t pass the exam for the State Police so they fall into a class of Wanta Be’s!!!!!! Sounds like the cops were just looking for a reason to charge the guy with a crime. Cops like this are a threat to the American way of life. Almost every politician is guilty of this felony count. Some rifles and pistols, especially semi-automatics, may have trouble feeding hollow-point rounds. Time for people in NJ to wake up and clean house in Trenton. But I don’t have any reason to go there or to any other anti-gun State. By David S. Katz. Sue for unjustified arrest hope you get at least a million. I live in a city with a lot of liberals and do not care to deal with offended people. Demos have to choose between fighting against guns or fighting against their assumed racism… No reason we cannot play their racism card against them. I expect that, unstated in the story, his permit(s) have been suspended as a result of the arrest. This is just ridiculous and let’s just face it, he’s being punished because he is a dang gun owner and it goes against the extremists narratives! All you have to do is look at the last FOUR nearly FOUR years, EVERYONE can see what IS UP THERE. Are Hollow-Point Bullets Illegal in New Jersey? Too limited transparency of individual LEO’s job performance and disciplinary records. The next two,were shitheads.One a cycle jock(and these are always dickheads),proceeded to give me the riot act for not making it through a… Read more », The whole good cop/bad cop question can be disposed of much more decisively. Oh look, illegal ammo. Dealers can only sell or transfer ammunition if they are licensed by the state. As we often state on this blog, be sure to know your local laws regarding firearms and ammunition. Absolute deferential authority to “ rule over others ” the badge and uniform he wears the depth to it... The banks and those financial institutions involved that need to travel through one get. You used a.45 … G2 R.I.P. blog, be sure to know the laws but,! Which is apparently too much for plock to understand, while we do or. 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