Give the frame a scuff job using 320 grit sandpaper and leaving the original paint there for bonding and rust prevention. It’s half done now anyway. I wondered whether I should try to remove enough material to eliminate this pitting, worrying that I might take too much off and weaken the fork blades. “the steel fork was fully chromed to complement the bare aluminum frame so that is what I am planning to have done.”. One of me bikes is looking decidedly tatty, and I was wondering about stripping the paint off it, and polishing it up or something. I've done some research on the internet and read sand blasting is too powerful and could possibly damage an aluminum frame. Bike Insurance Discount? No it won’t. Extra-coarse #4 steel wool is the go-to grade for removing thick or stubborn paint. How to Teardown a Dirt Bike Step by Step to Frame • YZ125 Rebuild Ep. Paint removing chemicals do the job nicely on DIY home spray jobs or with a softer material frame, but shot/sand blasting is the fastest and most thorough method on most steel frames. No it bloody won’t. Nooks, crannies and around the welds usually needs a few applications and sometimes working at with stripper/toothbrush. Softens it a bit making scraping it off a bit easier, but that’s about it. A quick google came up with this place selling kits. Bike was “free” as most of the bits were from the Shed. I’ll walk you through the steps of how to prep correctly so your frame looks great for decades to come. Really stubborn little flecks can be encouraged with a sharp point (like a needle). Think I’ll Nitromors the bugger, then have a go at just getting it to look reasonable, before going mental with the aluminium polishing malarky…. it’ll only work on paint, not powder coat…. Before venturing out into this unknown territory I did some research to determine what materials and tools I would need for the job. A long day if it’s a FS frame as they’re fiddly and you’ll need to mask (or remove) the bearings. Yep, if you get it stripped, polished and clear coated it will work out around £150. For a very dirty bike, rinse with a low-pressure hose to remove the majority of mud and grit. Please don’t post any more shiny, I’m already wondering how I could get the 456SS that shiny. do powder coaters not do the stripping as part of the process? 16 days ago. If I were going to spend that much, I may as well get it resprayed for virtually the same cost. Thanks, Cecil! you would want to use no less than 360 grt, sand the area, clean with a prep solvent. Contact Us In my case, I used some ronseal stuff which you leave for plus 6 hrs. Quite fancy this for my FS [/Hijack]. Well I’ve had a good go at it, but the paint is tougher than anything, and Nitromors is doing very little really. I’ve used a litre of Nitromors on it so far. The Mx Factory Recommended for you I’m off out to get some Nitromors…. Forum Rules A wire brush works fine in tight-to -reach areas just do not be too aggressive with it. On the other hand there is nothing stopping you from touching up powdercoat with paint. coating around here is 75.00 canadian so thats about 35 bucks in u.s funds, about 20 bucks to get it sandblasted. Your nasty face will be sufficient to strip the paint off. If so can anyone recommend a firm to do this? Classifieds Rules I ordered emery cloth and wet-dry sandpaper in varying grades, some brass brushes (which will not scratch steel), and a few other items such as tack clothes and dish scrubbers. Troy Lee D4 Carbon Helmet – The King of Helmets? Nitromors, a paint brush, a couple of toothbrushes, a load of newspaper, some safety specs/gloves and a damp cloth. You stripped your Dynatech with nitromors no? I haven’t had any experience with this process, so will report on it if that is the way I go with this fork. 3. What about polishing? For some people, they resort into soda blasting when removing paint from their aluminum frame. what bike? The topic ‘Stripping paint off an alu frame- any tips?’ is closed to new replies. A neat finish can take anything from 10 mins to three or four hours. One thing to know:  it is most efficient to sand very quickly, mimicking the action of a power tool. Stripping paint off an alu frame- any tips? Hi Josh, if I had taken it to a frame painter first, I think that would be an option. Painting over dirt will ensure chipping in the near future. Question info: “How do I remove paint fallen on my bike without removing/damaging the original paint? Premier Partners for Singletrack issues & exclusive subscriber perks, Metcheck MTB Weather Forecasts At A Glance, Singletrack Cycle Of Good Inner Tube Belt, Slicy Products Smooth Tyre Inserts, Sealant and Valves – Reviewed, 9 Bike Locks, Chains and Anchors to keep your bike safe. Yes they do. (or is it just me?). Armourtex in Clapton do some proper nice paintjobs, best to get them to do the whole thing really. It’s a process and can use different chemistries which will have different resistance to the chemicals in notromors (primarily Dichloromethane and Methanol). We’ve got one for you. They’re very highly regarded amongst the Fixierati here, and can do some lovely colours. Have stripped several frames myself, by the time you’ve brought the stuff and all the time it takes imo pay some one else to do it. I keep thinking to sell it, but nice bikes are keepers 🙂, Just breathe on the frame, all your hot air will just melt the paint away. I can sell you a Kinesis frame that doesn’t need stripping 😉 Maybe just leave it raw. Nice and gentle for thin ali tubes. I retrieved it yesterday, but not before the thieves did a hack of a spray paint job on it. the automotive one is a lot stronger than the house hold one. Cleaning and degreasing the frame. shine it all. Years of painstaking work? Vinyl ones are ok though. (Do not use a jet wash - … So will a powdercoaters dip, strip, polish and laquer? It is less aggressive than other blasting methods, but the problem is that the use of baking soda is not as easy as it seems. Kev; that’s sort of part of the idea really. How to clean. That's the … 1 • WIN THIS BIKE!! So you’re only safe around Titanium then? Polished frames will dull a little over time, but a quick rub down with metal polish fixes that. Wonderful addition and, of course, I can appreciate your delicate approaches to ensure a proper and thorough restoration. It's only a little scuffed up. Smear the shoe polish onto the scratched surface and spread it to fill in the scuff. Just be careful to wet the frame thoroughly, spray on the cleaner and let it work, then hose it off and lightly go over it with a clean cloth. How long are you leaving it? The fork is well constructed, and deserved my efforts, I felt. People used to make fun of me for having my dirt bike frames powder coated but after years of riding, the coating is not rubbed off the frame where my boots rub. This topic has 79 replies, 34 voices, and was last updated. While I was working, I was reminded of the bicycle frame that I built, and the effort required to sand the frame and remove excess brazing material. I would recommend, to anyone contemplating stripping a Cannondale frame, to have it done professionally. It does not corrode in anything like the way a steel frame would. Besides, it will also most likely require a lot of effort and time on your end. Reckon this would be a good idea for paint stripping? Quite interested in the idea of polishing it, but that’s some serious hard work. Battered bikes look cool anyhow. I had some for stripping doors already. Login/cookie issues? Seat Post in the post thuis morning The general process went like this: Full spray in upright position Scrape down, wire brush, full cleanup Full spray in inverted position (upside down) What about the fiddly bits? I ended up with a blister on my thumb. I imagine soda blasting is not blasting at all but is soaking in CAsutic Soda (Sodium hydroxide, NaOH). A labor of love, for sure. You can see the progression in these photos. Any tips for stripping; Nitromors? posted it pikey second class and it still cost me the same as a pint! It’s just quite expensive to have it dipped and stripped then coated. I can't say that for the factory KDX paint which was rubbed off down to bare metal after the first ride. It’ll be getting a Reba, as I’m selling the Lefty. A car refinisher may be able to help as they use clear coats when painting cars. I just received the frame in the mail and have a question, what is the best way to remove paint from the frame so I can repaint it? While I normally send all paint jobs out to the professionals, feeling that frame painters deserve their due, I decided that I wanted to prep this fork for painting myself so that I could assess the usability of the fork. I’ve seen other bikes just raw metal. Kev, you gotta keep the old Vertex mate. Grocery Panniers, 1977 Jack Taylor Tandem Restoration- the Beginning, Pandemic Stress Release: A Few Product Reviews, More Clearance with Single Pivot Sidepull Brakes, Cycling Along the Columbia Slough to Smith & Bybee Lakes, Overhauling Maxi-Car Hubs, Part 3 (whew! mansonsoul – Member When I purchased the bike, I knew it had a number of issues, the horrifically painted steel fork being one of them. What you have to do with the bare metal depends entirely on how it looks ‘au natural’ and what you want. Got an old kona blast frame .which is now cooking in stripper…I figure I only need a few bits to build a awesome single- braked single speed pub bike.. Ok crankset, front wheel, grips, seat and seatpost required, but you get the idea, Yep, I stripped a cannondale mb a few years back with nitromors, no problem, tried to laquer myself but couldnt get an even coat. Removing any old, loose and flakey paint from the frame. Reckon this would be a good idea for paint stripping? Premier Club I bet if you just go for black or white, a colour they do in batches, and go down the powdercoaters with all yer threads, headset etc sealed properly and give the bloke 35 quid, they won’t say no. It does take Zen-like patience. As you can see from the photos, the spray paint appeared to be hiding rusting and pitting on the fork blades. Posted: May 4, 2008 at 10:22 Quote: just so all you guys know,the new "professional"way to get any paint,dirt,grease etc. And is it ok to leave it raw? http://www.btinternet.com/~eric.guy/kits.htm. I know I could just buy new plastics, but I like to restore late 70s dirt bikes. Nitromors will stip powdercoat, it just takes longer. It is a tenner though and I used half of it so not recommended. It is always best to remove the old paint from the frame before applying new paint. Have it done professionally? Tried the same with a Giant Trance rear a few years back and was a real mess – different paint, didn’t come off cleanly and the ally underneath looked horrible. I’m doing my Cannondale one way or another. Ear, you seen me email about me broken seatpost? Using vigorous and speedy strokes with the emery cloth and sandpaper was the key to bringing the fork back to life. Wearing a mask is a good idea, since you will be creating a lot of dust in the process. One reason is it’s tatty; I noticed a fair patch of paint has fallen off the disc mount, and another is to get rid of the Cannondale branding which attracts the attention of too many scrotes. - YouTube Newsletter Settings, Viewing 40 posts - 1 through 40 (of 80 total). Might not cost you much either if you wait for them to do another job. I’d call it a day’s job. The main sections of paint will come off very easily – it can actually be quit disturbing the first time you do it as the paint makes noises, bubbles up and falls away before your very eyed!! There is usually one large bolt located between the base of the tank and the very front of the seat. That’s what I did, didn’t trust myself to do a good job. If I am going to get it redone, I’ll use them. In my experience NAOH will strip most paints eventually, especially if it’s hot. dipped or bead blasted?? These are 1991 xr600 plastics. Removing Paint from a Bicycle Frame the Safe(r) Way, Restoring Vintage Bicycles from the Hand Built Era, Simplex Tour de France Rear Derailleur Adjustment, Product Review: North St. also, it’ll only work on paint, not powder coat…. Start Stripping the Bike. 😯. That will be fantastic! Prepping the dirt bike frame after it has been stripped, will involve . Probbly less for just a strip and clear lacquer coat. When I purchased the bike, I knew it had a… Good luck! Because it is a pain in the bum. There’s still some stubborn paint in the nooks and crannies of the swing arm I’ve got to get rid of. 😆. The best place to have a bike painted is an an automotive body shop. I blast hundreds of frames a year and 1 in 10 would be removing a powder coat job gone wrong. Excellent work…I had to strip a 62 and 83 Schwinn…Had to do the same thing…time consuming but it worked..Greatly Enjoy your site….Thank You. Aluminium oxidises very quickly, so what you have after you’ve washed the stripper away is pretty much how it’ll always look. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! i’ve had two frames soda blasted and i’d highly recomend it,just had another done this week and dropped it off at the powder coaters yesterday.frames have always come back looking brand new. strip the whole bike down. Clear powdercoat? After researching other Meca Dural frames, I see that typically the steel fork was fully chromed to complement the bare aluminum frame so that is what I am planning to have done. Apart from a few bits like cables and headset, its all STW sponsored from past and present too…. do it. Now, I really want to do it. I cannot wait to see the results along with the final build! What’s the deal with leaving it raw though? The bare alu bits are looking ok just ‘brushed’ tbh. So far my (2011) frame still looks like new. Laquer will help keep the finish for longer. Allow the stripper to do the job. Josh is referring to Soda Blasting, which is similar to sand blasting, only a bit better because baking soda is used, which is water soluble and has its own cleaning properties, as well as being much more environmentally friendly. What ever you go for, I’d advise against a clearcoat as it will look shit very quickly once it gets a few chips. Anyone heard about soda blasting? Tips for removing spray paint from a bike frame? 4. When I began to remove the paint, I was disappointed to see just how bad the fork blades looked. 😆, Can I just get you to look at it Gary-C? Then, if you have a buffer, or access to a polishing wheel, you use that, but you can use metal polish by hand. Usually do the epoxy primer first on bare metal or self etching primer then scuff and use the high surface build primer if you need to. Might do a small area as a test. Some tanks have multiple bolts, but a lot of them only have this one bo… so you know how evil that cack is. One of me bikes is looking decidedly tatty, and I was wondering about stripping the paint off it, and polishing it up or something. Excellent for removing rust, dirt, and varnish, stripping paint from exterior woodwork, and cleaning stone. perfect for short 4 mile work run though. Get a can of self etching primer, tape off the area and put two good coats of the stuff. You have to use clear lacquer afterwards otherwise the aluminium will oxidise. Stripping the whole frame, blast and coat is not practical or affordable for everybody all the time. Any kind of painting might have an effect on the warranty. ), Overhauling Maxi-Car Hubs, Part 2 (hmmm…), Sunshine Pro-am Hubs vs. Ofmega Gran Premio. Nah, Elf, my face would melt the ally…. Looks quite good; just basic and funktional, utilitarian. It’s quite popular to polish the aluminium swingarm on motorbikes. like that old vertex that keeps changing it’s spots! soda blasting is…..blasting with bicarb of soda. I think for this frame, seeing as it’s quite old now, I’ll just strip it meself. this was an real old dog of a kona frame,made from easton ultra lite,a quick buff with a scotch brite pad and it was looking sooper shiny – then i spoilt it by painting it 🙁. I fired up my new (non-wimpy) Dremel to use for the hard to access areas near the fork crown, but for the fork blades themselves I wanted to do all the work by hand, the old fashioned way. This effect of "flattening" to remove the appearance of scratches is not what a matt frame needs. Should I treat it in any way? take out every thing.get the frame sand blasted,and then powder coat it. At those "fine" abrasives the paint has little or no adhesion. Considering doing this for my bike. Link Removal Choose a shoe polish with a color that is darker than the paint used on your bike. I could have listened to this in the beginning. Ooh I’m getting right fired up for this. The most important part of any painting job is the preparation. Then I remembered that fork blades are very thick and sturdy, given the job they must do, so I decided to keep going after observing the very nice brazing done on the dropouts and fork crown. I woon’t advise any sort of sand-blasting type method, as that can remove too much metal and weaken the aluminium apparently. Earlier, it was just an idea. 🙁. Elfin: We’re in this together! This is a very similar process. Cannondale Kev. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. In fact, the fork may still need to be soda blasted, depending on how well I do at removing the paint, rust, and pitting! I’ve spent the day frustrated that the paint on my Cannondale is still very much on! Anyone heard about soda blasting? Quite like the ‘battered’ look. what type of nitromors are you using? check out my rm frame in the member gallery. powder coating is 10 times more durable. ALuminium frames aren’t pure alluminium though so that makes a difference. SCHHHwiiing!! Three fish is right, aluminium is much more reactive than iron but the oxide formed is tightly adhered unlike rust which flakes off. I’m doing my Cannondale one way or another. 😉. The blades are pitted near the fork crown. Clean the frame with water and soap and let it dry. The only thing I have ever known to diminish a stripped/polished frame is the marks from sweat dripped onto the top tube. well, inspired by this thread, I resurrected an old Kona Blast. Specialized paint starts falling off after 30 seconds or so; Orange powdercoat takes a few minutes. It's poorly sprayed with some black spray paint, and they don't seem to have sanded anything down before painting. All based on advice from Randy at mytenspeeds.com who has done some very nice paint work on his collection of bicycles. I got bored rubbing the paint off in the end so it is a bit “rat” . My bicycle got stolen on Saturday night. When done right though it is in my opinion a way better option than painting. Take off the gas tank. It's tougher and more durable than paint. I’m not paying that! Unfortunately, whoever painted the fork did so while it was covered with rust. **** yer seatpost it’s rubbish. Use a wire brush or scraper to get off the big chunks. Maybe just leave it raw. Great work Nola! How to remove spray paint from dirt bike plastics. Stripped a Cannondale rear triangle ages ago and it looked great – paint peeled off with minimal nitromoors. I knew that I did not want to use harsh, environmentally unfriendly chemicals for this job. to have the paint removed? The only option seems to be something called Permatex Gasket Remover which seems to be nasty carcinogenic stuff, so I’m going to just sand the rest off. You remove all the paint, then sand it down to like 1000 grit. You will turn your matt frame into a shiny one. ohh that so nice. The 1940’s/50’s Meca Dural bicycle that I am currently restoring had an unfortunate encounter with an amateur spray painter. While this bike's frame is made from duralumin, a form of aluminum alloy which needs no paint because it cannot rust, the bike's fork was steel. Every tank is different, so make sure you know where all the tank bolts are located. I had toyed with the idea of polishing it up, but that’s a whole other world of pain I reckon. Again, I would contact the manufacturer about the specifics. The 1940's/50's Meca Dural bicycle that I am currently restoring had an unfortunate encounter with an amateur spray painter. Id take it to someone who knows the score amd professional finish 🙂, Right. shiney. Privacy A much quicker job with a hardtail. How thick do you apply the Nitromors? Fresher and newer feeling if someone else does it and you go pick it up, rather than huge effort on yer own part? it’ll feel like a new bike. I was going to have it anodised but now I’m planning on leaving it raw. The horrifically painted steel fork was fully chromed to complement the bare alu bits are looking just. 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